by Eric McMahon, MEd, CSCS,*D, TSAC-F,*D, RSCC*E, Jon Jost, MS, CSCS, RSCC*E, and Al Vermeil, MS, CSCS, RSCC*E
Coaching Podcast
August 2025
Few strength coaches have shaped sport performance like Al Vermeil — the only strength coach to earn championship rings in both the National Football League (NFL) and National Basketball Association (NBA). In this Gatorade Performance Partner Special Episode, Vermeil shares how a career built on explosiveness, adaptability, and relentless curiosity has transformed teams at every level. From advancing plyometrics and Olympic lifts in the 1970s to creating the performance pyramid and the innovative “time machine” testing system, his methods have influenced generations of coaches and athletes worldwide. Known for blending timeless principles with fresh, actionable ideas, he explains how mechanics, group management, and collaboration create consistent results and lasting trust. Along the way, Vermeil offers rare perspectives on coaching longevity, revealing how his adaptability and curiosity have kept him learning — and lifting — into his 80s. Gain practical insights to keep explosiveness central, integrate performance science, and strengthen your long-term coaching impact.
Reach out to Coach Vermeil by email at: a60vermeil@sisna.com | Email Jon Jost at: jonathan.jost@pepsico.com | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs or LinkedIn: @ericmcmahoncscs.
This special episode is brought to you in part by Gatorade Performance Partner. Learn more and join their community at GatoradePerformancePartner.com.
“My overall philosophy never really changed. […] I always felt that the most important thing in performance was explosive power because in the sports I dealt with, it's instantaneous. It's an impulse.” 2:20
“I always recommend young coaches - if you really want to be good, go learn to coach a team sport. I don't care if it's seventh grade girls basketball or boys. Learn, know how to organize groups.” 9:35
“The other thing I recommend young coaches do is go out and learn how to coach olympic lift, even just one of them and track and field because you'll learn mechanics.” 10:05
“Well, you don't have time in sports, whether it's football, baseball bat. When you're accelerating, especially-- you don't want to wind up. And if you're in football and you're a wind up tackler, you just got run over by the running back.” 16:50
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[00:00:03.20] Welcome to the NSCA Coaching Podcast, special episode.
[00:00:08.70] I'll tell you the most important thing is to have-- you get people to do things if you're enthusiastic and you have a smile on your face. Here's a great point, especially for college and professional even more. These guys are being evaluated every game on television, by the coaches, by the press, by the fans. They don't need to come in after they've lost a game and see a long face. Geez, we got beat last night. You've got to be a positive influence.
[00:00:41.57] This is the NSCA's Coaching Podcast, where we talk to strength and conditioning coaches about what you really need to know but probably didn't learn in school. There's strength and conditioning. And then there's everything else.
[00:00:52.08] This is the NSCA Coaching Podcast. I'm Eric McMahon, the NSCA Coaching and Sports Science program manager. Today's episode is a special collaboration with Gatorade Performance Partner. And I'm joined by veteran coach and Gatorade team sport manager Jon Jones. Great to have you here.
[00:01:10.14] Thank you, Eric. It's always great to be here with you and team up. And, man, today we have a special guest who is without question a legend in strength and conditioning and somebody who has shaped the profession across multiple sports and multiple generations. And I'm so excited for this session today.
[00:01:35.58] That's right. Today we're joined by Al Vermeil, the only strength coach to win championship rings in both the NFL and NBA and a pioneer in integrating performance science into elite sports. Al, welcome to the podcast.
[00:01:50.64] Well, thank you. Glad to join you.
[00:01:53.31] So you're the only coach, like I said, to win championship rings in two professional leagues. And you've worked in professional baseball. I don't want to skip that. That combination is-- it's a rare accomplishment to have success in this profession at that level, let alone across all those professional leagues. How did you adapt your training philosophy over the years to meet the unique demands of those different sports?
[00:02:18.68] Well, my overall philosophy never really changed. How I did things changed, but I always believed the ultimate thing-- besides, hopefully, hopefully lessening injuries-- was to get them to improve their performance. And I always felt that the most important thing in performance was explosive power because in the sports I dealt with, it's instantaneous. It's an impulse.
[00:02:51.39] You're not running the hundred meters. So everything has to be-- it's very short time. So I always started out believing that if you wanted to be explosive and fast, you had to train with that emphasis. And through the years, I just added things. When I first started coaching, I didn't know how to teach the Olympic lifts. I did them, but it was the greatest reverse curl you ever saw. So I knew I wasn't in the right direction.
[00:03:25.26] And I was coaching high school. And I brought in guys like Jim Schmidt, who was over at the Iron-- I believe it was called the Iron Palace, in San Francisco. I learned some things, and then I brought in-- I was a high school coach at this time. Then I brought in Russ Knipp, former world record holder, then Carl Miller.
[00:03:45.18] I became friends with John Garhammer, Mike Stone, just a myriad of different people. Much later on, I had Dragomir come in. My son was trained by Yuri Vardanyan. I had, God, Smitty from York. So in terms of the Olympic movements, all those people contributed.
[00:04:12.74] And at the same time, when I started coaching, I had spent a year at Kansas State University under Vince Gibson. I was a graduate assistant. Now, don't become too impressed with that title because I was a gofer. I went and picked up his kids, picked up his laundry, vacuumed the office.
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[00:04:34.22] But I watched what they did in the offseason. And they were doing the things-- I don't know what they call them today. They call them floating sprints, ins and outs. So when I went back to high school after that year, I started to really emphasize speed.
[00:04:51.11] And we called it the offseason program at that time-- we didn't call it-- because you worked on speed, agility, all the other things. So those early experiences shaped my philosophy. The other thing that shaped my philosophy-- when I was a college football player, I'd had some injury problems.
[00:05:12.14] And I didn't know how to work around them in the last couple of years in the offseason. And I felt I'd lost my explosiveness a little bit. And at 195 pounds, you couldn't afford to lose that. So all those things kind of-- there's got to be a better way. There's got to be a better technique.
[00:05:32.63] I learned to cycle things. When I trained in college-- and we didn't have a Boyd Epley. If you went heavy every day, you loaded it up. And that worked fine when you're younger. But when you start to get to your true maximums, it creates problems. So it kind of shaped my own personal experiences.
[00:05:55.05] And then I started reading about plyometrics in about 1975 or '74 that Fred Wilt put an article out. And I think it was athlete and-- no, Scholastic Coach I think it was called. And I started reading it. And I thought, well, that's put it aside. Then I read it again about six months later. Well, I was at Moreau High School in Hayward. And Don Chu was right up on the hill.
[00:06:26.45] So I got together with Don, and we started implementing plyometrics about 1975, 1976. And I was fortunate as an athlete. I was a high school shot putter. I ran the 100-yard dash, but I just got in the blocks. I didn't train for it. And I saw that shot putters were stepping off the bench and throwing the shot. So I had my athletes step off the bench in a hitting position and hit a bag.
[00:06:53.63] And at the same time, another former grad assistant from Kansas State was at Maryland working with Randy White. He had the opportunity to be with Frank Costello. And Frank was running downhill. So he sent me Frank Costello's downhill program.
[00:07:12.57] So by 1976, we were running up hills downhill, doing plyometrics. We'd become much more proficient in cycling our workouts. We became much better at the Olympic lifts. And then the other thing I'd got from Vince Gibson-- he had a nice-- they had a circuit program, a movement, where you went through different movements for 30 seconds and rested.
[00:07:39.08] So by that time, we were putting that all together. But the major goal, because that was football, was to be explosive and be able to accelerate. And I think you have-- anything that doesn't do that doesn't contribute to that. It's a waste of time.
[00:07:58.26] And of course, that's the time Nautilus was coming out, one set of 10 to failure. And I'm sorry, but I think that whole philosophy did more harm than anything else. And one of the things-- they always said go slow, but I think if you went fast in the machines, you'd break down, break them.
[00:08:19.83] The other thing I never liked was machines because you don't sit playing sports. You stand. And obviously, you find out later-- you're using all the stabilizers and all that. And then, as the years-- when I was with the 49ers, I brought in different coaches. With the Bulls, people used to ask me, how much new equipment did you bring in?
[00:08:45.05] I said, no, I got my original equipment, but I spent $18,000 or $20,000 a year bringing in consultants, paying for them. And then at that time, I became a very good friend with Charlie Francis, who was one of the brilliant coaches I've ever been around. I brought in [INAUDIBLE]. Carmelo Bosco and I became friends. I brought Mel Sipp, Pulicken, Victor Lopez, who was a really good speed coach, sprint coach at Rice.
[00:09:18.33] So I brought all these people in. And each of them added something to my knowledge. And I always recommend young coaches. If you really want to be good, go learn to coach a team sport. I don't care if it's seventh grade girls basketball or boys. Learn, know how to organize groups.
[00:09:39.57] And that was a great advantage to me because I started out as a football coach. And then I became a head coach. And I had to operate three different programs, freshman, JV, and varsity and coordinate them all. We all ran the same system.
[00:09:55.15] And when you coach a team sport, you coach on the run. The other thing I recommend young coaches do is go out and learn how to coach olympic lift, even just one of them and track and field because you'll learn mechanics. And plus track and field, if you want to be explosive, you got the shot putters. You got the jumps for jumpers and sprints for sprinters.
[00:10:16.09] I think having all that background-- and I coached track and field. One year, I was the throws coach at Casa Roble. So all those things has contributed to my background. And my background, if you can picture a pyramid, got bigger and bigger over the years. The base grew.
[00:10:40.38] Coach, let me ask you a quick question about the plyos and Olympic lifts. There is no question that you were really, really ahead of your time, bringing in plyometrics and Olympic lifts to improve athletic performance. And still today, there are coaches that-- there are sport coaches or position coaches that push back on Olympic lifts, specifically when they may think, oh, that's for football players.
[00:11:17.62] And so did you experience any pushback from either coaches or athletes? And then how did you, I guess, prove the value of those training methods of incorporating the Olympic lifts and plyometrics?
[00:11:36.03] Well, obviously, in high school I didn't have any pushback. Especially when I was at Moreau High School, I was a benevolent dictator. So you didn't have any problems.
[00:11:46.15] [LAUGHS] That's a luxury, huh?
[00:11:49.41] But when I went to 49ers, just the guys that worked out-- we didn't pay him in the offseason to come and work out. And we had a lot of turnover in those early years that I was with the 49ers. But the guys like Randy Cross, Dwaine Board, Keith, all those guys, Billy Ring, they didn't object.
[00:12:16.90] Some of them had-- Cross had been exposed to him as a thrower at UCLA. And I'll never forget Randy came in one day, and they had the World Championships or a big meet. And Alexei was lifting. He came in. He said, you're right. They actually jump off the ground. And so they bought into it.
[00:12:38.82] And again, I think if you know what you're doing, and you have a good plan, they'll buy into it. When I went to the Bulls, it was all new to those guys. And the guys that worked with me did it. Billy Cartwright, we got him. Billy was probably in his 30s. We got Horus, Scotty.
[00:13:05.65] But what you have to do with them is modify them to what they can do, not what they can't do. Other words, some guys, limb lengths are so long. And you have to raise the bar up or teach it a different positions. Or maybe one guy is better at the power snatch and the power clean. You just modify and adapt.
[00:13:28.17] And I really didn't get a lot of pushback from the players. Now, with that said, there were certain people that wanted to push back. And I pushed back, and I'll leave it at that. And I'll just leave-- this will give you the conclusion of the outcome, the pushback.
[00:13:51.28] We continued to do them right up until I left. Horus Grant cleaned 300 off about a 6-inch block, but that was hard. But Horus Grant could do anything. And here's a great example for young coaches. If you could picture you had a Gatorade cup-- and the diameter of the rim represented your nervous system. So that rim is wide. So you got a good nervous system.
[00:14:23.37] The fluid inside represents strength. All you had to do with Horus-- he had the nervous system-- is fill up that cup because then when you dumped it out, it was so big it came out at once. Now, you'll get other athletes that that Gatorade cup someone's drank out of and squeezed the top-- so you can fill it with water. But trying to widen that and improve the nervous system becomes a little more difficult.
[00:14:50.80] But one of the tidbits-- and this is from experience of coaching. We had some different guys that weren't as explosive. And I put the bar at mid thigh. And when they did the weight at mid thigh, it looked so much better than when it was lower.
[00:15:09.82] Well, one of the reasons they were taller-- and it made it look slower. But I found a more efficient-- well, I had read some papers by Dr. Talfoni And he made some interesting investigations and found that people that aren't as explosive do better with a shorter flex.
[00:15:33.84] The deeper you get them, the less efficient they are utilizing their nervous system. And they have less fast twitch muscle fiber. Where you get a guy-- of course, he's got explosion or Randy Cross any place along the range. So what I started emphasizing, that they made sure they did a certain amount of the list from what we would call today the power position. We named that way back in the '80s.
[00:15:59.07] So that's how you tweak little things. And you get that same athlete. And you may do-- the other thing, I always liken to a car. My dad is in the Sprint Car Hall of Fame and in the and the California Racing Hall of Fame. My brother drove open wheel race cars and had the last Offenhauser that could compete against the Chevys.
[00:16:24.21] So the down stroke to me is the eccentric contraction. The up stroke's concentric. Well, some people don't get much out of the eccentric. So to try to help the concentric, I would do things like pause push presses. And I would shorten the dip because if you watch poor jumpers, they'll jump with their back. They'll bend over or take a great big dip.
[00:16:51.73] Well, you don't have time in sports, whether it's football, baseball bat. When you're accelerating, especially-- you don't want to wind up. And if you're in football and you're a wind up tackler, you just got run over by the running back.
[00:17:05.71] So I would take and have him do it from a short motion. I'd either have him pause or go ahead and counter movement. But I'd cut the dip down. Now, people say, well, they didn't lift as much. The point was trying to make them more efficient in a shorter range. And that's the other thing about the power position. When you're in that power position and you do a power snatch or power clean, it's all or nothing. It's instantaneous.
[00:17:36.13] That's really, really good advice of being able to meet them where they're at and let them soar with their strengths.
[00:17:44.41] Coach, one thing I love coming through is your process translates loud and clear across generations of coaching. I hear you digging into the scientific concepts, thinking through it, but also bringing a practical element to your coaching.
[00:18:01.36] Hey, players play on their feet. Why are we sitting down? The real basic things that provide a foundation for us to explore these scientific concepts further. Another thing I really love hearing is all the outside influences you brought in to complement your skill set as a coach. And that's huge. That's huge today. I mean, you see that with the growth of performance staffs to just how big they are and how many experts we have in the locker rooms and in the clubhouses.
[00:18:30.85] I want to dig into that sports science a little bit more. Tell us about your time machine. This was a groundbreaking tool for measuring athletic performance at the time. I think it's a concept that we're pretty familiar with today. But how did that come about? And did you view it as innovation at the time?
[00:18:47.83] Well, it came about-- I was with the 49ers at the time. And I saw them-- they would hook a string to a guy and measure his acceleration for a few-- and it was a very crude-- and Don Chu and I were going to start a business.
[00:19:07.02] So I got the original little version. In fact, the young man graduated from Moreau High School, where I coached. And he built me a little thing. How many of us have heard quick feet? You got to have quick feet. So they never measured it.
[00:19:28.53] And I had a little drill I had picked up from a guy at Christian Brothers High School in Sacramento when I was assistant. They had a great program. And they did a drill. If you can picture stairs, you put your right foot on the first stair. Now, the left foot goes on the same stair. So you go right foot, lead left.
[00:19:51.12] You do three of those. Then you go left foot first, right foot. Now, the next thing you do is you alternated feet, right foot on the left. Now the left had to go the next stair. So I'll repeat-- I'm starting at the bottom-- right foot on the first stair, left foot on the first stair. Now, the left foot goes on the second stair, then the right. You alternate.
[00:20:14.28] And I gave that to our running back coach, Billy Matthews, because he was testing all these running backs that were coming out, I think, in-- was my second year there. So I'd be 1980, we're starting to say. And anyway, he talked about who could do it and who couldn't. And it was interesting looking at them as players later. So I wanted to find a way to see who had quick feet.
[00:20:44.49] So we developed this thing, and we did the vertical jump and the 40 and all that. And then when I moved to Chicago, I got a company-- I had a company in California. Another company started to use a little laptop. Well, they kind of hash about it. When I brought it back to Chicago, I had it finished.
[00:21:05.97] Well, by that time, I could measure change of direction. You'd get in the middle of a photosensor. And it was a random choice. The timeout of the photosensor to the first map, it was a total of 10 meters. So you went 2 and 1/2 meters, let's say, to the left.
[00:21:24.75] I got the time to the left, the time your foot was on that map, back to the right, that time on the map, back to the middle. We got the vertical jump, the multiple vertical jumps, the 40 to quick feet. In there, there's a way to simulate playing defensive back.
[00:21:44.82] Al Miller had one of those at Denver and loved it. And for change direction, I had a scheduler in there. I can't think of anything, a lot of things we had. The problem was I developed it at my own cost. If you're going to develop something, go get a sponsor so money doesn't come out of your own pocket.
[00:22:08.20] And the other thing, make sure the sponsor can then market it. Don't market it yourself. But was beautiful with the-- I could measure quick feet. And everybody talks about improving quick feet. I've worked with guys that didn't have quick feet and did everything in the world, never got better.
[00:22:31.98] And when I was developing this device, I had naturally quick feet. And we had a running back at the 49ers. And his name was Billy Ring. And he could do-- I can't remember the exact numbers. It was very fast.
[00:22:54.63] And the running back-- one of the running backs we had that didn't have good feet didn't. And so everybody says you're going to improve quick feet. I never found a way to improve it. That's just the way-- and then the vertical jump-- we had-- Don and I, in the early '80s, we were getting the contact time and divided in the height. But we didn't call it the reactive strength index. We just didn't name it. And we would have guys step off an 18-inch box, hit the ground, and then we had a way of measuring their height.
[00:23:35.91] And then when I went to the Bulls, we did the repeat vertical jumps. And when I became a friend of Carmelo Bosco's, that was really good. And again, that's a reactive. That was the other thing about Horus. He had it all. He had that reactivity and now what you would call a great strength reactive index.
[00:24:03.03] So, Coach, with your performance model and the progression or progressing from strength to power to speed, your pyramid, your framework that so many coaches reference today was really groundbreaking. Can you walk us through how you developed that pyramid and how modern coaches can use it today?
[00:24:33.03] Yeah, I probably developed it by accident, like everything. I was just trying to find a simple way for myself, because periodization can be confusing. And I read some things by Verkhoshansky. And he made a statement. And, Charlie, you can train a lot of things, but you got to have a direction.
[00:25:03.63] And if you look at the base-- and we haven't talked about the work capacity-- and that's where Steve Javorek's Complex come in. And I still believe in that. And what it is is I tried to find a simple way for me to understand.
[00:25:20.10] So when we get an athlete, where does he fit in that pyramid? We talk about testing. And you guys are all coaches. How many times did your boss come to you or the coach saying, this guy could really play, if he could run fast?
[00:25:41.25] And you go out in the weight room, and you're working on the weights, and you say, why aren't you sprinting? Well, first of all, the guy probably didn't have a good work, wasn't strong enough. And unless you're naturally elastic-- if you're not strong enough-- we know strength has a great deal and explosive strength with high loads, has a great deal to do with the first 10 to 20 yards.
[00:26:05.76] So when I tell about the pyramid, if speed is what you want. Well, where are you on that thing? What's your squat? And I'm still a big believer in the old back squat and front squat.
[00:26:19.14] Thinking back of the era and the athletes you worked with and had the chance to be around, what was your approach to building trust and getting buy in with the variety of athletes, the one that's going to run through the wall for you and the one that doesn't want to?
[00:26:35.16] Well, in high school, it was easy because I decided who got a uniform. And a side story to that, I got a call three days ago from one of my former players going through something difficult and called me and said, thanks, Coach. He said, I'm able to handle this because we had four days. People think I'm nuts. We did.
[00:26:56.26] But basically, when I was young coach, I wasn't smart enough to think about the word trust and buy in. It wasn't around. I just went in there with myself and just did the best I could. And what I found-- this is a true story from the 49ers.
[00:27:19.99] There was a player named Cedrick Hardman. And Ced had this deep voice. And he was a stallion. He comes in one day. And he kind of got a little edge. He said, hey, Al. The guys say this Olympic lifting good. Teach me. Took about two seconds.
[00:27:38.62] One day, after practice-- and we're wearing pads. There's none of this no pad stuff they have today. Ced comes in, says, I need a good workout, Al. Cleans and push presses 300 pounds. So the point being, the players felt I was competent. And they also realized my ego didn't get in the way from bringing in people like the Steve Javoreks and other people and to help.
[00:28:09.58] And they were seeing that we were trying to get better at our profession. Another guy I didn't mention was-- Robb Panarella was instrumental in dealing with some of the, oh, you shouldn't squat. You shouldn't squat this deep. You shouldn't do this. You shouldn't do that.
[00:28:25.71] You have some of those people in every organization. So back to the question. Know what you're doing. Coach what you know. Don't coach what you don't know, but go learn.
[00:28:38.11] I have one kind of fun question, Coach. Before we got on this podcast, I got my own workout in. And during my workout, I'm thinking, every time I see Coach at a conference, it looks incredibly fit and looks like he still works out pretty hard and moves really well.
[00:29:03.56] And I'm really curious, what do you do? How do you stay in shape? How do you stay-- what advice can you give me? Because every single time I go down and work out, it's like it gets harder and harder every year.
[00:29:16.48] Yes, it definitely does. I'm 80 years old. And I can't do the things I used to do. But working out is the one thing that I can't do without. I can't miss workouts. Now, here's the thing I have to do at my age. I have to take somewhere between at least two, most of the time three to four days, between lifts to let my body recover.
[00:29:45.22] And what I've had to do-- I can't clean or snatch anymore because I can't-- my wrists don't bend as good. I can't front squat anymore. So I use dumbbells on my shoulders. And I can always get 40 on each hand and do dumbbell squats. I still snatch pull. I won't tell you the weight. It's too embarrassing.
[00:30:14.77] And the other thing I have adapted to-- I do dumbbell presses. My shoulder was bothering me a little bit. And I love push presses. So I'm just getting back to pressing the bar. But it's doing what your body says you can do. And one thing I did with the trap bar-- and this could apply to athletes.
[00:30:37.60] And the trap bar isn't new. I'm convinced someone 100 years ago had something like that. They just didn't market it. But what I do with it, I turn it upside down. So I'm lifting at the same height I would lift an Olympic bar. And then I'll do a couple sets there. Then I'll turn the handles over and move up four inches. Then I put it on another four-inch block.
[00:31:02.18] So I go from low to normal, and I add four inches. So I go from the low position, normal, four inches. And that puts it about 16. And then I go to 20 and maybe 24. So I add weight. Or I'll go from the top down. And that was Carl Miller's old descending squat program. And I just did that.
[00:31:28.76] And what's interesting, when I get done doing that and go do my snatch pulls, I'm much better at it because I'm trying to find a way to work differently. And that has really worked really well for me. And how I would utilize it-- what I found is when I get done, I back squat better. I'm much more erect because it allows me to put more weight through the system. And if I was coaching today, if I had guys that couldn't squat, I might use some version of that.
[00:32:06.34] This is great advice. And it's also, I'll have to say, inspirational. I'm going to start incorporating a few of those things in my workout tomorrow.
[00:32:15.76] Coach, you're still bringing it. I really appreciate you sharing your wisdom with us today and the entire NSCA community. Your legacy, it's a huge part of the foundation that we all build from in this profession. So thank you for everything you've done. I love that you're still willing to share. I've seen you at a few conferences on panels the last couple of years. And it's just exciting to hear you.
[00:32:41.20] Oh, man, absolutely. This has truly been an honor to have this conversation. And I think we could go on all day.
[00:32:49.69] Well, the one thing I have to do now-- because I can't swim because of my shoulder. So I put one of those blue vests on and paddle in the water. Just remember the people-- there's a lot of ways to skin the cat. The most important thing is to know the cat you're skinning what they need.
[00:33:10.27] And here's the other thing. Some of the things that I did a long time ago, I didn't see other people doing. But I went ahead and did them anyway. So sometimes just because no one has ever done it doesn't mean that you can't.
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